Re: [spectre] the subjective value of art – a mathematical formula?

Andreas Maria Jacobs ajaco at xs4all.nl
Mon May 30 19:05:25 CEST 2011


Hi Armin

Thanks for this very informative reading! Especialy the phrase:

"The biggest villain was of course business-minded Le Corbusier. "

As if it was written out of my own heart

Thanks

Andreas Maria Jacobs

w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl

On May 30, 2011, at 14:04, Armin Medosch <armin at easynet.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I actually don't have time but it reminds strongly of Birkhoff's
> aesthetic measure cf
> http://www.fi.muni.cz/reports/files/older/FIMU-RS-99-06.pdf
>
> This was picked up by Max Bense in the 1950s who tried to merge it  
> with
> information theory. Similar but different Abraham Moles who  
> elaborated a
> measure of originality, also starting with Birkhoff, information  
> theory
> and cybernetics, but also a very deterministic type of behaviorist
> cultural sociology, see "Information theory and aesthetic
> perception" (1966). Their approaches did not prove to be very fruitful
> in the long run as regards more narrowly the application of  
> mathematics
> to artistic tastes but did inspire some artists to make interesting
> things.
>
> more valuable for your interest but also problematic for reasons which
> to explain would take an afternoon is Jack Burnhams Structure in Art
> (1971) who tries to find the deep structure of art using Lévi-Straus 
> s,
> Barthes, Chomsky but also Bourbaki mathematics and Klein Group theory.
> the book is hard to find but it seems very close to your endeavour. If
> anybody knows a good critique of Burnham's book I would be grateful.
>
> I have been reflecting on similar issues in this text
> http://www.thenextlayer.org/node/1365
>
> regards
> Armin
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:40 +0200, Geert Lovink wrote:
>>> From: Michał Brzeziński <michal at brzezinski.net>
>>> Date: 30 May 2011 1:35:40 PM
>>> To: Michał Brzeziński <brzezinski.video at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: The subjective value of art – a mathematical formula?
>>>
>>>
>>> Good monday morning!
>>>
>>>
>>> This is essentional and short text about my subjective formula of
>>> valuation of art, so please - lets discuss. I want to know your
>>> opinion. Do you egree?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://postvideoart.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/subiektywna-wartosc-sztuki-wzor-matematyczny/
>>>
>>>
>>> Michal
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> http://postvideoart.wordpress.com
>>> michal at brzezinski.net
>>> + 48 505 202 294
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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