[spectre] any news on the revolutions?

Andreas Maria Jacobs ajaco at xs4all.nl
Thu Mar 10 12:59:18 CET 2011


Hi Simon

understandable, feeling insulted depends on cultural sensibilities.

I need a diplomat to help

 ; - )

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On Thu, March 10, 2011 12:45, Simon Biggs wrote:
> Hi Andreas
>
> I guess it depends on what you consider an insult. Some people are more
> sensitive than others. Writing, as you did, "the easy manipulated bunch of
> ego centered 'artists' and organizations" isn't exactly edifying of those
> whose favour you seek. I lived and worked in Holland for several years and
> am also Australian so I know that is some cultures such direct expression
> is
> tolerated. However, in other cultures (such as the UK, where I live) such
> comments would be considered insulting, even when true.
>
> I agree with you about art (in the artworld) though.
>
> Mainstream contemporary art has become a bloated monster that mirrors, and
> functions as an apologia for, the excess and greed of late capitalist
> society. I'd torch the lot.
>
> That's not an insult but a threat... ;) and a potential strategy for
> another
> approach to art - applying Metzger's auto-destructive principles to the
> artworld as a whole.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 10/03/2011 11:14, "Andreas Maria Jacobs" <ajaco at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> hmm
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> I am not being aware of insulting anyone, just expressing a no-win
>> situation
>>
>> Regarding creative arts, it is my experience that there is hardly any
>> connection between art producers and art consumers, on the contrary
>> mostly
>> 'art' is left alone in an incestuous niche of autocratic power
>> structures
>> maintaining a rather steep protecting, invisible, social and economical
>> barrier between it's self glorifying merits and the ones not taken part
>> in
>> it
>>
>> I more try to think in a 'Brechtian' way to produce "Lehrstuecke' in
>> which
>> the under-informed and underprivileged audiences are given insights in
>> how
>> 'art' can be of importance to undermine and surpass this conditions.
>>
>> Surely it is difficult to operate in a context that is opposing the
>> underlying structures of the 'art world' itself, but as a matter of fact
>> most 'normal' people for ages already dislike art as they intuitively
>> feel
>> the class difference expressed in its glorifying and monetary
>> consequences.
>
>
> Simon Biggs
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>
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>
>




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