[spectre] any news on the revolutions?

[Andreas Maria Jacobs]

hmm

Simon

I am not being aware of insulting anyone, just expressing a no-win situation

Regarding creative arts, it is my experience that there is hardly any
connection between art producers and art consumers, on the contrary mostly
'art' is left alone in an incestuous niche of autocratic power structures
maintaining a rather steep protecting, invisible, social and economical
barrier between it's self glorifying merits and the ones not taken part in
it

I more try to think in a 'Brechtian' way to produce "Lehrstuecke' in which
the under-informed and underprivileged audiences are given insights in how
'art' can be of importance to undermine and surpass this conditions.

Surely it is difficult to operate in a context that is opposing the
underlying structures of the 'art world' itself, but as a matter of fact
most 'normal' people for ages already dislike art as they intuitively feel
the class difference expressed in its glorifying and monetary
consequences.

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On Thu, March 10, 2011 11:52, Simon Biggs wrote:
> Hi Andreas
>
> If you go into a conversation with people, where you are asking something
> of
> them, then insulting them is probably not the best place to start.
>
> The organisations you are seeking to engage exist because of collective
> goodwill, often in little corners of government or business where you can
> sometimes find a human being who values what the organisation is seeking
> to
> achieve. Ego's are part of all human interaction and the creative arts
> does
> seem to foster big ones. However, successful collective action, which most
> organisations rely upon, usually depends on the subsuming of individual
> ego
> for the collective good. This is true in all sectors of the creative arts
> and probably true in most other domains of human interaction. It is
> usually
> those individuals who are unwilling (or unable) to put aside their
> personal
> agendas who screw up collective action. Mind you, there are always
> individuals who are maddeningly egotistic, even brutal, who run successful
> organisations - but then you hear how horrible they are to work with...
> Must
> be horrible to think you only have friends because they fear you.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 10/03/2011 10:30, "Andreas Maria Jacobs" <ajaco at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> So I am asking you: do you know of organizations in Europe willing to
>> participate in projecting videoworks, distribute written essays and
>> showing 'net' artpieces reflecting a dissent about the institutional
>> power systems currently ruling Europe, without being afraid to loose
>> the privileges these very same power systems are giving to the easy
>> manipulated bunch of ego centered 'artists' and organizations?
>
>
> Simon Biggs
> simon at littlepig.org.uk
> http://www.littlepig.org.uk/
>
> s.biggs at eca.ac.uk
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>
>
>