!!! Re: [spectre] (FW Jo van der Spek) STREAMTIME: Internetradio onelection day Iraq

Mon Jan 24 18:56:08 CET 2005

    Please do not worry of any project against the persons from my part. I
am convinced of the good intention of the media at first. But to be serious
: which church but one christian just the daytime of the remembrance of the
Shoah?

Really Europe cannot dream in matter of monotheist religions.

Who were not guilty or resistances here and there ?

Who will not be guilty or resistances here and there ?

    Iraq : who is not guilty at the actual?

French journalist of the newspaper Liberation worked on the question of the
women vote in Iraq, and neck know what arrived at her.

I think of a situation exactly looking the same as Viet Nam war with the
bonzes sacrifying themselves alive by the fire in the city of the legal
governement as the beginning to "the end": "apocalyse" notably to the
american part inside and outside-. Remember of the pacific bonzes taking a
stand of their self-violence against the regime of the US-Vietnamese
coalition in place, as they call the Vietnamese people beside the communists
in resistance. So we are able to imagine how the vision of two good
montheisms against one bad monotheism in several faces named Islamists in
resistance would not tell of the real united state of the resistance in
Iraq.

For another part I am French and the journalist -she could be my friend in
matter of ideas ( we have a common friend )- so any questions appear to be
reflected outside of our own part front of the war. That was the objective
of my rude first mail : to have any debate soon ont he question of free
media in time of the quesiton of the human sources.

Personally as a united French woman regarding Florence Aubenas hostage I
boycott this sort of free media denying of the real materialistic situation
against freedom and predictive freedom to be realized.

Instead of acting the peace which has to precede representative elections
the war and the repression are more reinforced.

The vote in the situation of the civil war could not reveal anything or the
same associated power still at the power.

Cheers
L.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stephen kovats" <kovats at v2.nl>
To: "spectre" <spectre at mikrolisten.de>
Cc: <jo at xs4all.nl>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: !!! Re: [spectre] (FW Jo van der Spek) STREAMTIME:
Internetradio onelection day Iraq

> Dear all,
>
> whether the mail I forwarded is sincere or not perhaps remains to be seen.
> Jo van der Spek has 'been there and back', and even if we were to debate
the
> legitimacy of any electoral system in Iraq, the attempt to open up the
> process via 'streaming activism' is entirely worthy. Spectre is the place
to
> take these kinds of initiaves up - not as a generic free for all post-up
> board, but as a means of media(ted) collaboration.
>
> As for the comment/statement below from L ... this is certainly one of the
> most criptically bizarre bits of linguistic meltdown I have seen in a long
> time. Maybe the worm resides here ...
>
> cheers,
>
> S.
>
> > Crazy mail!
> >
> > Please let see and think from whose part is coming the first mail and
you
> > will know of which disguised manipulation it is asked to you to be a
> > predictable object.
> >
> > L.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "stephen kovats" <kovats at v2.nl>
> > To: "spectre" <spectre at mikrolisten.de>
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:55 AM
> > Subject: [spectre] (FW Jo van der Spek) STREAMTIME: Internet radio
> > onelection day Iraq
> >
> >
> >> - Free voices from voters via Internet radio on election day in Iraq
...
> >>
> >>
> >> ------ Weitergeleitete Nachricht
> >> Von: jo van der spek <jo at xs4all.nl>
> >> Datum: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:40:07 +0100
> >>
> >> STREAMTIME: Internet radio on election day Iraq
> >>
> >> STREAMTIME RADIO PROGRAM COVERS ELECTIONS IN IRAQ ON JANUARY 30TH
> >> 2 - 6 p.m. (Central European Time)
> >>
> >> free voices from voters in Iraq
> >>
> >> On January 30th Iraqis are called to vote for the interim national
> >> assembly. It will be a day of hope and violence, no doubt.
> >> Streamtime will be an on-line platform for direct and independent
> > reporting
> >> and discussion.
> >> Our stream will start at 2 p.m.: radio on internet!
> >> We don't just want votes, but Iraqi voices to be heard worldwide.
> >>
> >> We call on people in Iraq and the diaspora to send us messages, join a
> > chat
> >> or be available on the telephone, so we can hear from you directly
what's
> >> going on.
> >> You don't have to be a reporter to report!
> >> We welcome Arabic, English and other languages.
> >>
> >> We will broadcast from 2-6 p.m. (Central European Time) on the internet
> >> (streaming) and moderate a public chat.
> >> We will invite people from the audience for interviews in our on-line
> >> studio and have them partcipate actively in the program.
> >>
> >> This program will be part of a public meeting in Amsterdam, Holland
from 2
> >> till 6 p.m. (in the
> >> Beurs van Berlage, Damrak 1, Amsterdam), organized by Pax Christi,
Church
> >> Peace Council
> >> (IKV) and HIVOS.
> >>
> >> Streamtime is a project promoting free media in Iraq. We combine old
media
> >> such as local
> >> radio in combination with new media (internet, web site, blogging,
> >> streaming).
> >>
> >> for the latest information visit
> >> http://www.streamtime.org
> >> or email: irakdesk at xminy.nl
> >> or phone +31.20.6279661
> >> or fax: +31.20.6228229
> >>
> >> Jo van der Spek
> >> Salam Khedher
> >>
> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> >>     ~  S T R E A M T I M E    ~    F R E E   M E D I A   F O R   I R A
Q
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> >>                http://www.streamtime.org   irakdesk<at>xminy.nl
> >>
> >>   donate to Dutch bank account 5965559 AIDA, Amsterdam ref. Streamtime
> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> > ~
> >> with apologies for double postings
> >>
> >> ------ Ende der weitergeleiteten Nachricht
> >>
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