[spectre] a terrible day
Hanna Haaslahti
hanna at fantomatico.org
Thu Mar 3 10:12:09 CET 2022
Hello from Helsinki and many thanks for opening up this thread!
As many of my fellow citizens, I have grown up with constant fear of our
ominous and unpredictable neighbor, Russia. Being a small nation at the
direct geographical contact with the moody giant has shaped the
psychology of postwar Finland. We are constantly on our knees making
sure that the temper of our eastern neighbor stays on the positive side.
Some call this approach effective foreign policy, the only way to survive.
In 1939 Finland asked for international help on the eve of Soviet
attack. Very few replied. Now Ukraine is asking the same thing and many
have replied. It seems to me, that this is the way to fight the despots,
by joining all the forces against them and showing unity, instead of
self-interest.
Please, keep the pressure on together, we will need it here on the
eastern edges of EU.
/Hanna
On 02/03/2022 17.19, carsten stabenow wrote:
> depends on how you define ‚disinformation‘
> crimethInc has a clear history, easily to track
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrimethInc.)
>
> thanks andreas for opening up the discussion here!
> i’m personally shocked by the war rhetoric from all sides. i worked
> the past 25 years with artists from ukraine and russia in context
> trying to make borders unnecessary, call me naive, but i’m still 100%
> that we have to stand together against any kind of war - boycotts in
> the cultural sector would be confession of failure. (my subjective
> position)
>
> there was just a post by geert lovink on nettime with many proposals
> for constructive action:
> https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-2203/msg00005.html
>
> best, carsten
>
>
>> Am 02.03.2022 um 15:49 schrieb Matias Schüttenberg <matschutt at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Is this the same desinformation campaign from Social Networks??
>>
>> Has someone researched on this subject there?
>>
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2022 10:39, "Nicolas Montgermont" <list at nimon.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Maybe it is good to have the point of view of some political
>> groups in Ukraine and Russia.
>>
>> Here is an article from some anti anti-authoritarian ukrainian
>> groups that is two weeks old:
>> https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine
>>
>> Here is one by russian anarchists, updated one week ago.
>> https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/26/russian-anarchists-on-resisting-the-invasion-of-ukraine-updates-and-analysis
>>
>> They really helped me to understand the political situation!
>> Best,
>> n
>>
>> PS : forgive me if these were already posted here.
>>
>> https://nimon.org
>>
>> Le 02/03/2022 à 11:48, Spyros Boukas a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I would like to share some thoughts that I have had since last
>>> week.
>>> I apologize in advance for my English :)
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a world war that didn’t start last week.
>>>
>>> It has started many years ago.
>>>
>>> It has started straight after the end of the ‘’cold war’’ that
>>> was not cold at all.
>>>
>>> It started with the first Gulf War in 1990, were the western
>>> Alliances attacked Iraq.
>>> And it continued with the occupation and destruction of many
>>> eastern countries since then.
>>> But in western countries and western media this was not a
>>> problem, because we were the ones that were bombing.
>>> And because the dead people were Muslims.
>>>
>>> In 1995 there was a massacre in Kosovo, the biggest massacre
>>> after the second world war, in which all the European countries
>>> took part, by their silence.
>>> And still, this was not a problem, because the dead people were
>>> Muslims. Here in Greece, the media were saying that the people
>>> were bombing their city by themselves
>>> because they were fanatic Muslims (the same ideology that
>>> continued with the second war in Iraq)
>>>
>>> Now that the country that is attacking is not a western country,
>>> it is called war.
>>> As if previously we were having peace in the world.
>>>
>>> In Ukraine from 2014 there is a war and since then, 14000 people
>>> have died.
>>> If we look back when this started, we can see that this is
>>> something that was pushed from the western countries back then.
>>> By sending weapons and supporting the para-military of Ukraine
>>> and helping to establish a Fascist regime that oppresses the
>>> people and the working class of Ukraine
>>> and forwards neonazi ideologies and practices.
>>>
>>>
>>> As the global Capitalistic crisis rises more and more, the war
>>> probably will come closer to us.
>>> But whenever the Bosses of this world are making wars to compete
>>> for their geopolitical thirst and capitalism expansion, we are
>>> the ones who always die...
>>>
>>> As the war expands, our personal or collective dilemmas for
>>> participation for sure will get stronger.
>>> We should not join any National flag. We should fight in our
>>> countries against their participation in any war,
>>> because we will be the victims of something that we only have to
>>> lose.
>>> We have to lose our friends and beloved people’s lives or even
>>> our lives.
>>>
>>> We won’t fight for anyone.
>>>
>>> Peace among the people, War among the Classes.
>>>
>>> Together with the Oppressed people of Ukraine who are fighting
>>> against this war.
>>>
>>> Together with the Oppressed and arrested people of Russia, who
>>> are fighting against this war.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:36 PM Lanfranco Aceti
>>> <lanfranco.aceti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> *April 5, 2021*
>>> https://www.cato.org/commentary/joe-bidens-ukraine-policy-repeat-george-w-bush-georgia
>>>
>>> *April 21, 2021*
>>> https://www.cato.org/commentary/time-cure-americas-clientitis-over-ukraine
>>>
>>> Dear Andreas, and everyone else, I hope you are well... Nice
>>> to see that you still can keep this unruly flock to toe the
>>> red line.... :))))
>>>
>>> I hope you will enjoy the links. I do not approve or
>>> disapprove of the Cato Institute, I just find their writing
>>> very telling of a US mindset and liked the fact that these
>>> opinions were voiced almost a year ago.
>>>
>>> This clarification is in case someone would want to accuse
>>> me of being a puppet or client of the Cato Institute. By the
>>> way, to be a client one should have been paid something.
>>> Unfortunately, I haven't. :))))) (For those who might
>>> misunderstand, I would like to alert you to the fact that
>>> this paragraph is a sarcasm, including the present disclaimer.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lanfranco Aceti, Ph.D.
>>> Artist, Curator, and Academic
>>>
>>> /Preferring Sinking to Surrender/,
>>> Venice Architecture Biennale, 2021
>>>
>>> /Tools for Catching Clouds/
>>> https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/tools-for-catching-clouds/
>>> /Preferring Sinking to Surrender/, Part I
>>> https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-i/
>>>
>>> /Preferring Sinking to Surrender/, Part II
>>> https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-ii/
>>> /Sacred Waters/
>>> https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/sacred-waters/
>>> /Le Schiavone/
>>> https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/le-schiavone/
>>> /Orthós/ https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/orthos/
>>> /Seven Veils/
>>> https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/seven-veils/
>>>
>>>
>>> Lanfranco Aceti http://www.lanfrancoaceti.com
>>> Director and Founder, MoCC
>>> http://www.museumofcontemporarycuts.org
>>> Editor in Chief LEA, MIT Press http://www.leoalmanac.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:50 PM Andreas Broeckmann
>>> <ab at mikro.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> folks,
>>>
>>> please, refrain from personal insults; it's one of the
>>> "red lines" that
>>> this co-moderator and co-list-owner draws.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>>
>>> -a
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>>> Dipl. Architect-Engineer [2011], National Technical
>>> University of Athens*
>>> *
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