[spectre] a terrible day

Nicolas Montgermont list at nimon.org
Wed Mar 2 14:39:24 CET 2022 

Hello everyone,

Maybe it is good to have the point of view of some political groups in 
Ukraine and Russia.

Here is an article from some anti anti-authoritarian ukrainian groups 
that is two weeks old:
https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine

Here is one by russian anarchists, updated one week ago.
https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/26/russian-anarchists-on-resisting-the-invasion-of-ukraine-updates-and-analysis

They really helped me to understand the political situation!
Best,
n

PS : forgive me if these were already posted here.

https://nimon.org

Le 02/03/2022 à 11:48, Spyros Boukas a écrit :
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to share some thoughts that I have had since last week.
> I apologize in advance for my English :)
>
>
> This is a world war that didn’t start last week.
>
> It has started many years ago.
>
> It has started straight after the end of the ‘’cold war’’ that was not 
> cold at all.
>
> It started with the first Gulf War in 1990, were the western Alliances 
> attacked Iraq.
> And it continued with the occupation and destruction of many eastern 
> countries since then.
> But in western countries and western media this was not a problem, 
> because we were the ones that were bombing.
> And because the dead people were Muslims.
>
> In 1995 there was a massacre in Kosovo, the biggest massacre after the 
> second world war, in which all the European countries took part, by 
> their silence.
> And still, this was not a problem, because the dead people were 
> Muslims. Here in Greece, the media were saying that the people were 
> bombing their city by themselves
> because they were fanatic Muslims (the same ideology that continued 
> with the second war in Iraq)
>
> Now that the country that is attacking is not a western country, it is 
> called war.
> As if previously we were having peace in the world.
>
> In Ukraine from 2014 there is a war and since then, 14000 people have 
> died.
> If we look back when this started, we can see that this is something 
> that was pushed from the western countries back then.
> By sending weapons and supporting the para-military of Ukraine and 
> helping to establish a Fascist regime that oppresses the people and 
> the working class of Ukraine
> and forwards neonazi ideologies and practices.
>
>
> As the global Capitalistic crisis rises more and more, the war 
> probably will come closer to us.
> But whenever the Bosses of this world are making wars to compete for 
> their geopolitical thirst and capitalism expansion, we are the ones 
> who always die...
>
> As the war expands, our personal or collective dilemmas for 
> participation for sure will get stronger.
> We should not join any National flag. We should fight in our countries 
> against their participation in any war,
> because we will be the victims of something that we only have to lose.
> We have to lose our friends and beloved people’s lives or even our lives.
>
> We won’t fight for anyone.
>
> Peace among the people, War among the Classes.
>
> Together with the Oppressed people of Ukraine who are fighting against 
> this war.
>
> Together with the Oppressed and arrested people of Russia, who are 
> fighting against this war.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:36 PM Lanfranco Aceti 
> <lanfranco.aceti at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     *April 5, 2021*
>     https://www.cato.org/commentary/joe-bidens-ukraine-policy-repeat-george-w-bush-georgia
>
>     *April 21, 2021*
>     https://www.cato.org/commentary/time-cure-americas-clientitis-over-ukraine
>
>     Dear Andreas, and everyone else, I hope you are well... Nice to
>     see that you still can keep this unruly flock to toe the red
>     line.... :))))
>
>     I hope you will enjoy the links. I do not approve or disapprove of
>     the Cato Institute, I just find their writing very telling of a US
>     mindset and liked the fact that these opinions were voiced almost
>     a year ago.
>
>     This clarification is in case someone would want to accuse me of
>     being a puppet or client of the Cato Institute. By the way, to be
>     a client one should have been paid something. Unfortunately, I
>     haven't. :))))) (For those who might misunderstand, I would like
>     to alert you to the fact that this paragraph is a sarcasm,
>     including the present disclaimer.)
>
>
>
>     Lanfranco Aceti, Ph.D.
>     Artist, Curator, and Academic
>
>     /Preferring Sinking to Surrender/, Venice Architecture Biennale, 2021
>
>     /Tools for Catching Clouds/
>     https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/tools-for-catching-clouds/
>     /Preferring Sinking to Surrender/, Part I
>     https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-i/
>
>     /Preferring Sinking to Surrender/, Part II
>     https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-ii/
>     /Sacred Waters/
>     https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/sacred-waters/
>     /Le Schiavone/
>     https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/le-schiavone/
>     /Orthós/ https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/orthos/
>     /Seven Veils/
>     https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/seven-veils/
>
>
>     Lanfranco Aceti http://www.lanfrancoaceti.com
>     Director and Founder, MoCC http://www.museumofcontemporarycuts.org
>     Editor in Chief LEA, MIT Press http://www.leoalmanac.org
>
>
>
>     On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:50 PM Andreas Broeckmann
>     <ab at mikro.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>
>
>         folks,
>
>         please, refrain from personal insults; it's one of the "red
>         lines" that
>         this co-moderator and co-list-owner draws.
>
>         best regards,
>
>         -a
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> -- 
> *Spyros Boukas*
> Dipl. Architect-Engineer [2011], National Technical University of Athens*
> *
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