[spectre] the subjective value of art – a mathematical formula?

[Andreas Maria Jacobs]

Hi again

I found in my archive a picture expressing my ambivalent feelings towards
Le Corbusier's megalomaniac architecture:

See image:

http://nictoglobe.com/82.jpg

The text reads in (Dutch original):

"Thank you Le Corbusier!

Urban Building: Children Prisons
Stop the dehumanizing Architecture Dictature!"


On Mon, May 30, 2011 19:05, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
> Hi Armin
>
> Thanks for this very informative reading! Especialy the phrase:
>
> "The biggest villain was of course business-minded Le Corbusier. "
>
> As if it was written out of my own heart
>
> Thanks
>
> Andreas Maria Jacobs
>
> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
>
> On May 30, 2011, at 14:04, Armin Medosch <armin at easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I actually don't have time but it reminds strongly of Birkhoff's
>> aesthetic measure cf
>> http://www.fi.muni.cz/reports/files/older/FIMU-RS-99-06.pdf
>>
>> This was picked up by Max Bense in the 1950s who tried to merge it
>> with
>> information theory. Similar but different Abraham Moles who
>> elaborated a
>> measure of originality, also starting with Birkhoff, information
>> theory
>> and cybernetics, but also a very deterministic type of behaviorist
>> cultural sociology, see "Information theory and aesthetic
>> perception" (1966). Their approaches did not prove to be very fruitful
>> in the long run as regards more narrowly the application of
>> mathematics
>> to artistic tastes but did inspire some artists to make interesting
>> things.
>>
>> more valuable for your interest but also problematic for reasons which
>> to explain would take an afternoon is Jack Burnhams Structure in Art
>> (1971) who tries to find the deep structure of art using Lévi-Straus
>> s,
>> Barthes, Chomsky but also Bourbaki mathematics and Klein Group theory.
>> the book is hard to find but it seems very close to your endeavour. If
>> anybody knows a good critique of Burnham's book I would be grateful.
>>
>> I have been reflecting on similar issues in this text
>> http://www.thenextlayer.org/node/1365
>>
>> regards
>> Armin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:40 +0200, Geert Lovink wrote:
>>>> From: Michał Brzeziński <michal at brzezinski.net>
>>>> Date: 30 May 2011 1:35:40 PM
>>>> To: Michał Brzeziński <brzezinski.video at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: The subjective value of art – a mathematical formula?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good monday morning!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is essentional and short text about my subjective formula of
>>>> valuation of art, so please - lets discuss. I want to know your
>>>> opinion. Do you egree?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://postvideoart.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/subiektywna-wartosc-sztuki-wzor-matematyczny/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michal
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> http://postvideoart.wordpress.com
>>>> michal at brzezinski.net
>>>> + 48 505 202 294
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Micha%C5%82-Brzezi%C5%
>>>> 84ski/163940550324160
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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