[spectre] Fwd: [cr2004] copied from an interview of Dalai Lama

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>Subject: [cr2004] copied from an interview of Dalai Lama
>
>Dear all,
>
>This is an interview of Dalai Lama  published in 
>a local newspaper (Hong Kong) a few days ago. I 
>share this with you all here. You may be 
>surprised to know Dalai Lama is willing to 
>accept China's authority over Tibet. His 
>consideration of a broader interest may allow us 
>to rethink thoughtfully again the idea of 
>humanity and the way the development of science 
>of technology. I have included both the 
>reporting article and an interview done by 
>Laurence Brahm who have met Dalai Lama and 
>Panchen Lama recently.
>
>County
>
>=============================
>From South China Morning Post, March 14, 2005
>Dalai Lama yields ground on Tibet self-rule
>We will accept China's authority if it preserves our culture, he says
>staff reporter
>
>The Dalai Lama has extended an olive branch to 
>Beijing in a bid to resolve the decades-old 
>political conflict over Tibetan independence.
>
>The exiled spiritual leader appears to have 
>given up any demand for Tibetan self-governance 
>and is willing to accept Chinese rule so long as 
>Tibet's culture, spirituality and environment 
>are preserved.
>
>In an interview published exclusively in the 
>South China Morning Post today, the Dalai Lama 
>indicates he is relinquishing his half-a-century 
>struggle for Tibet's sovereignty in order to 
>realize what he calls "broader interest" to 
>allow his people to savour the success of 
>China's rapid economic growth and 
>accomplishments.
>
>"We want modernization. So for our own interest, 
>we are willing to be pat of the People'sRepublic 
>of China, to have the PRC govern and guarantee 
>to preserve our Tibetan culture, spirituality 
>and our environment," he said.
>
>The Dalai Lama said that by dropping the 
>sovereignty claim for Tibet, his people would be 
>able to benefit from China's economic 
>achievements. This was in stark contrast to his 
>previous stand, that Tibet should be a 
>self-government domestic and political entity 
>under a type of "one country, two systems" 
>arrangement.
>
>"This is the message I wish to deliver to 
>China," he said. "I am not in favour of 
>separation. Tibet is a part of the People's 
>Republic of China. It is an autonomous region of 
>the People's republic of China. Tibetan culture 
>and Buddhism are part of Chinese culture."
>
>The Dalai Lama's clear reference to the Chinese 
>government, and Tibet being one of its 
>autonomous regions, was tantamount to 
>recognition of the Chinese Communist Party's 
>rule and acceptance of Tibet's current status. 
>This comments indicate he now seeks autonomy 
>only on religious and cultural matters and not 
>political, economic or diplomatic affairs.
>
>The 69-year-old spiritual leader expressed hope 
>that Tibet could help develop China's "internal 
>values" in the spiritual field through Buddhism, 
>while the central government could expand 
>"external values" through materialistic 
>development such as economic and political 
>governance. He denied his apparent climbdown 
>came out of desperation, and stressed that "it 
>comes out of broader interest".
>
>He pointed to Europe as an example of such 
>broader interest. "In the European Union, each 
>[country] carries self-interest but what is more 
>important is common interest. It is more 
>important than individual sovereignty. Currency 
>is the most potent symbol of individual 
>sovereignty, but they are willing to give it up 
>to dissolve into the common interest."
>
>However, the Dalai Lama's change of heart has 
>raised concerns of a growing rift between the 
>moderates and the radicals within the 
>government-in-exile, based in Dharamsala in 
>northern India.
>
>The Chinese government has insisted that the 
>Dalai Lama, who fled in 1959 after a failed 
>uprising against Beijing, must accept that Tibet 
>is an integral part of China and abandon his 
>sovereignty right. In recent years, the Dalai 
>Lama has been increasingly accommodating in his 
>political maneuverings, pursuing a "middle way" 
>that would ensure autonomy rather than 
>independence and leave China in control of 
>Tibet's foreign policy.
>
>Meanwhile, in an unprecedented interview with 
>Post columnist Laurence Brahm, the 
>Beijing-recognized 11th Panchen Lama sent a 
>message of harmony, calling on Tibetans overseas 
>to contribute to their homeland's economic 
>development.
>
>The teenage religious leader, who is rarely seen 
>in public, said:" I wish Tibetan people here and 
>living abroad to love their country and home 
>town, and put their efforts into economic 
>development in their homeland."
>
>Both lamas were disillusioned with developments 
>in the west, pointing out the limitations 
>materialism has in satisfying humanity, and the 
>need for more spirituality.
>
>The calls by both religious leaders could serve 
>to create a rare window of opportunity for true 
>dialogue to take place and speed up negotiations 
>to pave the way for the homecoming of exiled 
>Tibetans in the near future, analysts believe.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Conciliatory Dalai Lama expounds on winds of change
>Money is not sufficient. China is seeking a new spirituality, he says
>
>
>I met his Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama in a 
>Tibetan monastery near Buddha's Bodhi tree in 
>India, where he had been leading prayers for 
>world peace. In a private meeting, the exiled 
>Tibetan spiritual leader expounded on the 
>reasons for his olive-branch gesture to the 
>Chinese government.
>
>The Dalai Lama greeted me at the entrance of his 
>reception chamber, rather than waiting inside. 
>He seemed anxious to talk and keen to know about 
>the latest infrastructure in Tibet (¦èÂæ۪v°Ï) 
>, specially roads, and economic conditions. 
>Having filmed many remote regions throughout 
>Tibet, I was able to present a clear picture of 
>what I had seen.
>
>He then spoke, clearly with compassion: "This is 
>the message I wish to deliver to China. I am not 
>in favour of separation. Tibet is a part of the 
>People's Republic of China. It is an autonomous 
>region of the People's Republic of China. 
>Tibetan culture and Buddhism are part of Chinese 
>culture. Many young Chinese like Tibetan culture 
>as a tradition of China."
>
>I was taken aback. The Dalai Lama's clear 
>reference to the Chinese government and Tibet 
>being an autonomous region was tantamount to 
>recognition of the Chinese Communist Party's 
>rule and acceptance of Tibet's current status. I 
>asked for clarification.
>
>The Dalai Lama then explained his position.  "As 
>the material development of China moves forward 
>we gain materially, like the railway. If we were 
>a separate country it would be very difficult 
>and we would not benefit," he said.
>
>The Tibetan government-in-exile has many 
>factions. Moderates seek a solution and 
>accommodation with Beijing, while radicals 
>oppose compromise.
>
>The Dalai Lama explained: "The Tibetan youth 
>organisation criticises me as taking this 
>approach out of desperation."
>
>He shook his head. "No, it comes out of a broader interest."
>
>He pointed to Europe as an example of such 
>interest. "In the European Union each [country] 
>carries self-interest but what is more important 
>is common interest. It is more important than 
>individual sovereignty," he said. "Currency is 
>the most potent symbol of individual sovereignty 
>but they are willing to give it up to dissolve 
>into common interest.
>
>"Tibet is underdeveloped and materially 
>backwards. We want modernisation. So for our own 
>interest, we are willing to be part of the 
>People's Republic of China, to have it govern 
>and guarantee to preserve our Tibetan culture, 
>spirituality and our environment. But we can 
>contribute to the spiritual side of China," he 
>said, indicating knowledge of the Chinese 
>Communis Party's search for new identity. "China 
>seeks a new ideology. Marxism succeeded and 
>worked for two decades. Then it became confused. 
>This is because class struggle fostered hatred. 
>Our teaching is non-violence. Now, the market 
>ideology of capitalism fails to build meaningful 
>society. Cultural heritage is easily destroyed. 
>The CCP feels now that people must have money 
>and this will give the party credibility. It 
>must learn from the US and Europe that money 
>alone does not fulfill human beings."
>
>The Dalai Lama's words could have been those 
>delivered by President Hu Jintao (-JÀAÀÜ) 
>discussing the CCP's crisis of ideology and the 
>need to promote spirituality to balance China's 
>newly embraced materialism. Suddenly I realised 
>the gaps are really not so wide.
>
>"China is an ancient nation," the spiritual 
>leader spoke passionately. "Money is not 
>sufficient. China is seeking a new spirituality. 
>Tibetan Buddhism is our own culture, one part of 
>our own culture." In saying "our own" I realised 
>he was including himself within China.
>
>"They [the CCP] find it easier to accept 
>[Buddhism] rather than western religions like 
>Christianity. With Buddhism in the spiritual 
>field we can help with internal values, while 
>the Chinese provide external values, and both 
>will have mutual benefit. They will understand 
>our centuries-old culture is rich. They will 
>then respect Tibetan culture more and understand 
>what we mean in our demand for meaning autonomy."
>
>The Dalai Lama apparently now sought only 
>autonomy in guiding policies on religious and 
>cultural matters, not political economic or 
>diplomatic affairs, an official of the 
>government-in-exile later said.
>
>I asked the Dalai Lama whether he was interested 
>in visiting China. He replied: "It is in China's 
>interest....As long as I am there I can make 
>Tibetans calm. If I am not there, I do not know 
>what will come. The Chinese government should 
>use common sense rationally, not look at things 
>with narrow perspective."
>
>The Dalai Lama seemed disillusioned with 
>developments in the west. He condemned 
>unilateralist "warfare, exploitation, science 
>and technology used for killing, expanding 
>imperialism and colonialism and discrimination," 
>but recognised the importance of democracy and 
>the rule of law.
>
>-----------
>Laurence Brahm, filmmaker, author, 
>lawyer-economist and Post columnist, is the only 
>person known to have met both the Dalai and 
>Panchen lamas. His independent neutral capacity 
>has given him unprecedented access to both sides.
>
>
>
>
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