[spectre] a voice for new media in open systems [u]

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who I though may have some vested interest

--- "Geert Lovink [c]" <geert at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> > From: "Kelli Dipple" <Kelli.Dipple at tate.org.uk>
> > Date: 17 June 2005 1:45:08 AM
> > Subject: a voice for new media in open systems
> >
> > Hello -
> > This is an email to a small set of personal
> contacts and collegues,  
> > who I though may have some vested interest in a
> discussion that is  
> > currently live on the Tate site titled C0dE 0f
> practice (until july  
> > 18). Discussing issues relevant to 'open systems',
> 'curatorial  
> > control', 'new media', 'generative, distributed
> and collaborative  
> > work'.
> > The panelists, have expressed a keeness for other
> people to add input  
> > into the discussion at large. This online forum
> format is somehow the  
> > opposite of those events you go to, that for one
> reason or another,  
> > end up skimping on the discussion time at the end
> of all the  
> > presentations, when often it is the discussion
> that becomes the most  
> > interesting interchange. Here you have a
> discussion that lasts for 5  
> > weeks. It will only address the issues it needs to
> address, if people  
> > offer input and engage in a dialogue.
> > If you do have input - I would really like to see
> some of you jump in  
> > and comment via the public forum. I actually think
> there are quite a  
> > few people out there that might have something to
> say about the topics  
> > under discussion - but it will take some brave
> soldier to break the  
> > ice and make the first post before we will see
> activity in the public  
> > forum.
> > I am not trying to bang you all in the head with
> marketing or self  
> > promotion here - I just think that it is important
> some spaces are  
> > made for these debates.
> > Do redistribute this to any peers or students, you
> feel may have an  
> > interest or stake in the direction of this
> discussion, which will  
> > remain published / archived on the Tate site
> afterwards.
> > Here is a direct link to the panel discussion - to
> post a message  
> > follow the [forums] tab at the top and go to the
> public forum ...
> >
>
http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?
> 
> > forum=45&thread=2932&tstart=0&trange=45
> >
> > C0dE 0f practice
> >
>
http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/code_of_practice/ 
>  
> > (overview for umbrella online season)
> > In response to the Tate Modern exhibition Open
> Systems Rethinking Art  
> > c 1970 and the Curating, Immateriality, Systems
> conference.
> >
> > How do we identify, sort, search and locate
> ourselves amidst the  
> > dynamic instability of immaterial culture and its
> artefacts?
> >
> > In a data based landscape of self organization,
> automation and agency,  
> > and further through the use of social, networked,
> location aware and  
> > ID specific - tools, systems and software, where
> is the  
> > curator/artist/audience placed in the 21st
> Century? Under what  
> > conditions do we collaborate, participate and
> appropriate?
> >
> > What social, political and cultural reference
> points inform legacies  
> > of new media, activist, interventionist, net,
> code, software and sound  
> > art? What tendencies, behaviours and practice
> evolve?
> > Here is a cut and paste from one of Charlie Gere's
> posts, inviting  
> > response:
> > "Just a couple of quick thoughts in response to
> Sarah's post. Firstly  
> > I think there is an important distinction to be
> made between  
> > collaboration and consensus. The former need not
> and often does not  
> > involve much of the latter. Nor, necessarily,
> should it always, though  
> > this opens up a big can of worms.
> > Secondly I am intrigued to know if anyone other
> than the six of us is  
> > actually attending to this forum. Nothing has been
> posted on the  
> > public forum, yet.
> >
> > Apart from hoping that people are reading the
> posts and will respond  
> > this also raised intriguing issues in relation to
> the themes of the  
> > forum.
> > In a sense this forum is not just bound up in a
> number of systems,  
> > legal (invited participants sign a document
> agreeing to certain duties  
> > and limitations), economic (we get paid in
> exchange for our  
> > participation), technological (it is made possible
> by the on-line,  
> > internet technology), cultural (what we say and
> how we say it is  
> > governed by protocols and expectations), but it is
> also a kind of  
> > system itself, which, in the absence of more than
> the originally  
> > invited participants, is closed. Of course the
> presence of other  
> > 'public' participants is unlikely to change things
> greatly, especially  
> > given that those who might participate will almost
> certainly be  
> > self-selecting.
> > I suppose the question is how do we open up what
> appears to be a  
> > closed system to elements which exceed it. This is
> a kind of mirror of  
> > much of what is at stake with 'new media' art."
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Kelli Dipple
> > Webcasting Curator
> > Digital Programmes / Education & Interpretation
> > Tate
> > www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents
> 
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