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Independent Media Center www.indymedia.org
Pakistani paper's "exclusive" interview with Usamah Bin-Ladin 
(english) Monday 01 Oct 2001
author: Karachi Ummat in Urdu 28 Sep 01 pp1, 7

Ummat: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in New 
York and Washington. What
do you want to say about this? If you are not involved, who might be?

Usamah: In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful. 
Praise be to Allah,
Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the earth as an 
abode for peace, for
the whole mankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad 
for our guidance. I am
thankful to the Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the 
opportunity to convey my
viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and Momin [true 
Muslim] people of Pakistan
who refused to believe in lie of the demon. I have already said that 
I am not involved in
the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my 
best to avoid telling a
lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the 
killing of innocent women,
children, and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly 
forbids causing harm to
innocent women, children, and other people. Such a practice is 
forbidden ever in the course
of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every 
maltreatment on women,
children, and common people of other faiths, particularly the 
followers of Islam. All that
is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call 
the wrath of God upon
the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those 
Muslim countries, which
witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done 
to the innocent people
of Iraq, Chechnya, and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived 
from the indifference of
the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the 
patronage of the tyrants by
these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is 
patronizing the anti-Islamic
forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, 
rather deceit. By enticing
or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to 
play a role of its
choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of 
the United States are
either rulers or enemies [of Muslims]. The US has no friends, nor 
does it want to keep any
because the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the 
friend or consider him
at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It 
expects slavery from
others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or 
subordinates. However, our case
is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after 
this pledge there is
no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that, it 
will be disregardful
to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world 
nations upholding their
freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of United 
States, or the latter itself
considers them as its enemies. Or the countries, which do not agree 
to become its slaves,
such as China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria, and the former Russia [as 
received]. Whoever
committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American 
people. I have already
said that we are against the American system, not against its people, 
whereas in these
attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my 
information, the death
toll is much higher than what the US government has stated. But the 
Bush administration does
not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace 
the perpetrators of
these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US 
system, but are dissenting
against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons 
who want to make the
present century as a century of conflict between Islam and 
Christianity so that their own
civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They can be 
any one, from Russia
to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US itself, there are 
dozens of well-organized and
well-equipped groups, which are capable of causing a large-scale 
destruction. Then you
cannot forget the American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush 
ever since the
elections in Florida and want to avenge him. Then there are 
intelligence agencies in the US,
which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress 
and the government every
year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence 
of the former Soviet
Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. 
They needed an enemy.
So, they first started propaganda against Usamah and Taleban and then 
this incident
happened. You see, the Bush administration approved a budget of 40bn 
dollars. Where will
this huge amount go? It will be provided to the same agencies, which 
need huge funds and
want to exert their importance. Now they will spend the money for 
their expansion and for
increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug 
smugglers from all over the
world are in contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do 
not want to eradicate
narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will 
be diminished. The
people in the US Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug 
trade so that they could
show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General 
Noriega was made a
drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the 
same way, whether it is
President Bush or any other US president, they cannot bring Israel to 
justice for its human
rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is 
this? Is it not that there
exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That 
secret government must
be asked as to who made the attacks.

Ummat: A number of world countries have joined the call of the United 
States for launching
an attack on Afghanistan. These also include a number of Muslim 
countries. Will Al-Qa'idah
declare a jihad against these countries as well?

Usamah: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the Muslims; to 
tell them as to what is
good for them and what is not. What does Islam says and what the 
enemies of Islam want?
Al-Qa'idah was set up to wage a jihad against infidelity, 
particularly to encounter the
onslaught of the infidel countries against the Islamic states. Jihad 
is the sixth undeclared
element of Islam. [The first five being the basic holy words of 
Islam, prayers,  fast,
pilgrimage to Mecca, and giving alms] Every anti-Islamic person is 
afraid of it. Al-Qa'idah
wants to keep this element alive and active and make it part of the 
daily life of the
Muslims. It wants to give it the status of worship. We are not 
against any Islamic country
nor we consider a war against an Islamic country as jihad. We are in 
favour of armed jihad
only against those infidel countries, which are killing innocent 
Muslim men, women, and
children just because they are Muslims. Supporting the US act is the 
need of some Muslim
countries and the compulsion of others. However, they should think as 
to what will remain of
their religious and moral position if they support the attack of the 
Christians and the Jews
on a Muslim country like Afghanistan. The orders of Islamic shari'ah 
[jurisprudence] for
such individuals, organizations, and countries are clear and all the 
scholars of the Muslim
brotherhood are unanimous on them. We will do the same, which is 
being ordered by the Amir
ol-Momenin [the commander of the faithful] Mola Omar and the Islamic 
scholars. The hearts of
the people of Muslim countries are beating with the call of jihad. We 
are grateful to them.

Ummat: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and Washington 
have proved that giving
an economic blow to the US is not too difficult. US experts admit 
that a few more such
attacks can bring down the American economy. Why is al-Qa'idah not 
targeting their economic
pillars?

Usamah: I have already said that we are not hostile to the United 
States. We are against the
system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or 
forces them to mortgage
their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in 
control of the American
Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is 
simply that the American
people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live 
according to the
principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach 
Israel. In fact, it is
Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the US 
is not uttering a single
word.

Ummat: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through other 
means, apart from the
armed struggle? For instance, inciting the Muslims to boycott Western 
products, banks,
shipping lines, and TV channels.

Usamah: The first thing is that Western products could only be 
boycotted when the Muslim
fraternity is fully awakened and organized. Secondly, the Muslim 
companies should become
self-sufficient in producing goods equal to the products of Western 
companies. Economic
boycott of the West is not possible unless economic self-sufficiency 
is attained and
substitute products are brought out. You see that wealth is scattered 
all across the Muslim
world but not a single TV channel has been acquired which can preach 
Islamic injunctions
according to modern requirements and attain an international 
influence. Muslim traders and
philanthropists should make it a point that if the weapon of public 
opinion is to be used,
it is to be kept in the hand. Today's world is of public opinion and 
the fates of nations
are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building 
public opinion are
obtained, everything that you asked for can be done.

Ummat: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far been made 
by the Western media.
But no information is being received from your sources about the 
network of Al-Qa'idah and
its jihadi successes. Would you comment?

Usamah: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It has 
no other theme to
survive for a long time. Then we have many other things to do. The 
struggle for jihad and
the successes are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His 
bondsmen. Our silence is our
real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or corrigendum only waste 
your time and through
them, the enemy wants you to engage in things which are not of use to 
you. These things are
pulling you away from your cause. The Western media is unleashing 
such a baseless
propaganda, which make us surprise but it reflects on what is in 
their hearts and gradually
they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid 
of it and begin to
cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern 
age and the Western
media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear 
and helplessness in
the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means 
that what the enemies of
the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can 
understand as to what will be
the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and 
helplessness.

Ummat: What will the impact of the freeze of al-Qa'idah accounts by the 
US?

Usamah: God opens up ways for those who work for Him. Freezing of 
accounts will not make any
difference for Al-Qa'idah or other jihad groups. With the grace of 
Allah, al-Qa'idah has
more than three such alternative financial system, which are all 
separate and totally
independent from each other. This system is operating under the 
patronage of those who love
jihad. What to say of the United States, even the combined world 
cannot budge these people
>from their path. These people are not in hundreds but in thousands 
>and millions. Al-Qa'idah
comprises of such modern educated youths who are aware of the cracks 
inside the Western
financial system as they are aware of the lines in their hands. These 
are the very flaws of
the Western fiscal system, which are becoming a noose for it and this 
system could not
recuperate in spite of the passage of so many days.

Ummat: Are there other safe areas other than Afghanistan, where you 
can continue jihad?

Usamah: There are areas in all parts of the world where strong jihadi 
forces are present,
>from Indonesia to Algeria, from Kabul to Chechnya, from Bosnia to 
>Sudan, and from Burma to
Kashmir. Then it is not the problem of my person. I am helpless 
fellowman of God, constantly
in the fear of my accountability before God. It is not the question 
of Usamah but of Islam
and, in Islam too, of jihad. Thanks to God, those waging a jihad can 
walk today with their
heads raised. Jihad was still present when there was no Usamah and it 
will remain as such
even when Usamah is no longer there. Allah opens up ways and creates 
loves in the hearts of
people for those who walk on the path of Allah with their lives, 
property, and children.
Believe it, through jihad, a man gets everything he desires. And the 
biggest desire of a
Muslim is the after life. Martyrdom is the shortest way of attaining 
an eternal life.

Ummat: What do you say about the Pakistan government policy on 
Afghanistan attack?

Usamah: We are thankful to the Momin and valiant people of Pakistan 
who erected a blockade
in front of the wrong forces and stood in the first file of battle. 
Pakistan is a great hope
for the Islamic brotherhood. Its people are awakened, organized, and 
rich in the spirit of
faith. They backed Afghanistan in its war against the Soviet Union 
and extended every help
to the mojahedin and the Afghan people. Then these are very 
Pakistanis who are standing
shoulder by shoulder with the Taleban. If such people emerge in just 
two countries, the
domination of the West will diminish in a matter of days. Our hearts 
beat with Pakistan and,
God forbid, if a difficult time comes we will protect it with our 
blood. Pakistan is sacred
for us like a place of worship. We are the people of jihad and 
fighting for the defence of
Pakistan is the best of all jihads to us. It does not matter for us 
as to who rules
Pakistan. The important thing is that the spirit of jihad is alive 
and stronger in the
hearts of the Pakistani people.
Source: Karachi Ummat in Urdu 28 Sep 01




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